i think it's well worth reading some of william e. rees writing here:
standstoreeson | William E Rees | Substack
then there's this 2 hour long conversation with him on youtube:
William E. Rees: "The Fundamental Issue - Overshoot" | The Great Simplification #53
finally, this excellent comment to that video from CitizenK1969 :
there is something sort of "mathematically inevitable" (note the quotation marks) about our predicament. Human cultures that are rapacious simply out compete those that are restrained in resource use... so without pan-species behavioral changes, we can't escape our "fate." I think this is why Nate started out looking at energy and the environment, but has arrived at a place of increasingly talking about human motivation, human nature. We either have to transcend our nature, or literally transform into something different, a species less inherently competitive, more in tune with its ecosystem... I'm reminded of the end of Vonnegut's novel /Galapagos/, which sees humanity survive, long term, by regressing into a kind of sea lion species. I want to believe we can overcome out nature, but history puts that in serious doubt.
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